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Originally Posted by wildperson
Thank you all for your surport.
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OK, lets get some real facts here so that everyone out there can make an informed judgement for themselves. I have been absent from forums for several weeks now...appologies but I have been liaising in person with the Bulgarian police on these matters, hence my inability to keep posting regularly.
Latest Update Facts.
I spent a whole month in Bulgaria trying to sort out mine and other peoples property problems arising from dealing with Debra Paula Butland, Nick Butland, Lynn Symes all of Bulgarian union, formerly Bulgrupo and Pegasus.
I experienced many problems getting the formal complaint lodged. I was given various dates and locations to report to their "serious fraud squad" but these appointments/arrangements were constantly changed and delayed for almost all the month I was there. (I recall Debra Butland screaming one day "You will never get us, we own the police here").
After being given delays and various excuses for not dealing with me, i went higher up (To TOP level....Ministry). Then I was finally given an appointment on the very day my flight left BG! Make of this what you will.
Very good service after this. Inspector for BG ministry plus investigators drove 4 hours to collect my documents and commence formal investigation.
Result: 30th August 2007. 11.00 hrs Lynn Symes interviewed in police station at length. 13.00 Hrs Nick & Debra Butland interviewed for hours.
Direct from mouth of a cheif police officer "there are 6 or 7 other cases involving these people ready in Sofia, awaiting hearing at Bulgarian High Court"
and "they are very well known to police in Sofia following many complaints"
The following week Lynn Symes (Their assistant and 'right hand person') stated herself she had been sacked by Butlands and they had closed their office in Bulgaria.
They are now "working" with an agent in Kusadasi. We HAVE warned this agent of all the problems in BG but he chose to ignore that and become associated with them. We know they are advertising houses and "shell stage" properties in Yavansu and Kusadasi on the internet and claiming to be English agents working with Turkish agent. Their own home in Bg is up for urgent sale with price being reduced several times (check internet ads for proof).
All readers of this can make their own judgements but my own guess is they are doing a runner to Turkey (Non EU laws) to escape problems in BG. (But then I might be a little bias!...perhaps they will stay in BG after all.)
Today a 'victim' of theirs informed me that his BG lawyer is also taking action to get his money back from them....he paid them a deposit and shortly afterwards they closed the office and refuse to respond to him.
British ITV put out a program on TV in August after taking another victim to BG and confronting them for a refund...they obviuosly had good cause to go all way to BG to film them!!!
I am now awaiting initial report as to what action comes next from BG Inspector. I will let you all know as soon as I do.
As for what I have PUBLISHED above...it's all factual and provable...despite Butlands threatening me with Supreme Court action for which i made myself available (and death threats too!) nothing has happened...they know that it is perfectly legal to publish FACT and these they cannot dispute.
So, I now say to all property investors in Bulgaria AND TURKEY now, you should have enough information NOW to make an informed judgement, good luck and BEWARE!
Robin Hood
