I just found out from my contact in the Thomson head office that in November they will be back in Natal and they said there was never any intention of pulling out of Natal.

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Brasilians changes up their reais in dollars when the dollar is low and then they change it back depending on the movement.You will always see a Brasilian asking for dollars they have been doing it for years.

The dollar is low now against most currencies including the reais, which means most Brazilians would be holding on to their dollars. How does this translate to more domestic airline passengers buying flights in Brazil using reais???

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Thats good news if true. Will believe it when i see the flights on the website.

Verano is not stuck with anything going up in front of it.
The already built Corais has the new jacques Costeau building and a couple of other smaller buildings a bit of a way away. Still doesn't really effect the view much though.

I spoke to the contact here in Natal and he said that there will not be flights next year and that it is common to have a 2 year gap(he said that last year too)but TAP have reduced their flights from 7 to 4 over the last year aswell as numbers are down.Interesting.

My argument isn't about those people. There are poorer countries than Brazil.
But since I first went to Natal 5 years ago I have definately noticed a change in the level of poverty for the better. My argument is about Brazil's economy as a whole. There will always be winners and losers. There are people still sleeping on the streets here too. If Brazil does well on a global scale then less people think of it as third world, the better the economy does the more people are employed, the more people that will visit and hence create more jobs.

The problems which are wrong with Brasil come sadly from the governments of the past and present(infact Lula has robbed his people badly)What he did do at 1st was up the minimum salary and has continued to do so and thankfully has continued to do so,but what he has not done is all the other promises which are investments in schools,education,health etc,etc and what he has done is rob billions along with his friends and put money all over the place and the only reason he got back in was because the population which is mainly poor voted him back in and sadly they sre are mainly illiterate and often do not have a tv cannot read a newspaper etc,etc,and we are talking adults.and he increased their minimum wage.Apart from that he has done F.A .Speak to your fiances family they can tell you more.

Whats the point in him investing now in that side of things and running out of money?
If he invests in the economy then he will have more money to help the poor in the future. Again look at the Uk in the 80's Maggie Thatcher screwed over the northerners but look at what doing that helped achieve in the long term.

I don't think Dotty is daft, I think there is a lot of sense in what he says..he just rushes in with one liners without thinking too much and putting down more detail. I understand what he means about them buying on credit cards and x4 or x6 or x12. I have seen it with my eyes and have first hand experience....it is rather like getting credit on credit if that makes sense. I have sat round the table with Brasilians saying that they only paid 60Reis for something but actually it was 720 Reis (60 x 12 payments). So the cost of something is deemed as the payment cost not the total cost..it is the only way that most can really afford to do anything or buy anything. And luxuries are expensive there in European terms, there are very few luxuries such as electrical, clothes, travel, sunglasses etc that are cheaper pro-rata than Europe...so what you have is this growing middle class and a lower class chasing them who all aspire to nice things and buy them on hire purchase on credit cards....crazy funding really..its a bit like buying a car here on a credit card but also borrowing the staged payments you have to make every month. I wish I owned a bank in brazil..no wonder HSBC rushed in! I have seen meals and drinks in middle class bars being paid for by so called rich Brazilians on credit cards too...this is the norm in Europe but brazil is still a cash economy..this also indicates borrowing to me..and in fairness to Dotty I can understand why he says they don't keep up payments.....these apartments are also being offered this way...they are not mortgages but Hire Purchase agreements...this is how they are expanding their economy in a way it makes sense but sooner or later wages have to catch up with aspirations....this is the problem...and greater aspirations will bring more crime. Geneerally anything of luxury is price controlled and price protected, it is not a free market....many locally made goods are allegedly made locally as the import duties are high..this allegedly protects the economy but in fact, from what I have seen it really only serves to protect high prices and margins for the local manufacturers. Brazil is not a trading economy, certaily not in locall ymade consumer goods..you try and do business there and buy from Brazil, every time I tried you get a blank look. It seems to me that many goods maintain a high price for the benefit of the local Brad owners...a classic case for this is a microwave oven which costs about £100 3 times the UK and almost a months salary to a local in Natal. There is no reason why a microwave should cost so much with low labour costs..which brings me back to the original thread flights......the same applies here....routes and prices are protected..I beleive the government has to approve flight costs to overseas destinations...this mentality will not open up this economy to a tourist or a property boom until it is changed and free trade is permitted.