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Old 28-04-2008, 07:35 PM
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What do you mean be careful?It was not what I expected thats all.When you go to visit a site wherever it may be situated ,one must look at all aspects of road conditions,ground swampy levels etc.,rain,etc,beach construction,properties built to close to the sea,etc.The road I was on was horrendous I mean it did have the signs for Jacuma posted everywhere!The infrastructure of the roads to actually get to it are clearly very poor and there was another piece of land for construction that you could not pass because of a lagoon.Now when I get off an aeroplane and go to my nice house at the beach I want to get there without getting out the car and not be faced with a swamp would you agree Rob on this ?Hopefully they will work it out but real pressure needs to be put on the prefeitura.They have evolved by signposting beaches in both directions but thats no good if they cant sort out the roads in the small villages.
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Read the post you just responded to again and you will see my answer to the question you just asked.
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Old 30-04-2008, 10:38 AM
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Most of the agents on this forum are clearly well-educated, well-informed, put their names and addresses to everybody to see them. I hardly see any advertising here from them (except some negative advertising from those who roots against their own working place), mostly orientation, clarification, guidance, and so on. They do not state things like “come to Brazil and a semi-naked woman (or man, depending on preferences…) will serve you fresh mangos after you swim with dolphins and turtles!!”. On the other hand, there are those who post very negative, often untrue messages, and them they leave the burden of explaining for the established agents, like cheap politics.
Agents faced a lot of challenges by going in a different country, learning the ways and certainly, as any expat knows, some frustration. By the end, they greased the engine, screened developers for would be buyers and lift the overall bar; indeed a very positive contribution. Yesterday I received some photos of Fortaleza and Natal, I can hardly wait to visit there. And I will do my best to spend at least one week on each, to have time to buy my summer house (or apartment). Not saying other places are not nice, but for me international flight is a must.
Let me add that I do respect those who have different point of views, propose alternatives, or are just skeptical; the problem is that posts here are often crossing the line. And a buyer, like me, can clearly see that and starts losing interest to come to this forum to get information, or exchange ideas.
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Old 30-04-2008, 11:13 AM
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I do not disagree with what you have written ,but there will always be differences of opinion and some of which people prefer not to see or listen to.
There have been uncertainties in some off plan projects that have created heated opinions because naturally there are agents involved in promoting it and investors involved too! People sometimes have hand on experiences of living in a country ,and like to address the reality and again there are people that may or may not like to hear others opinions.Brasil is a fabulous country but keep your eyes wide open and research tooth and nail.Good luck!
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Most of the agents on this forum are clearly well-educated, well-informed, put their names and addresses to everybody to see them. I hardly see any advertising here from them (except some negative advertising from those who roots against their own working place), mostly orientation, clarification, guidance, and so on. They do not state things like “come to Brazil and a semi-naked woman (or man, depending on preferences…) will serve you fresh mangos after you swim with dolphins and turtles!!”. On the other hand, there are those who post very negative, often untrue messages, and them they leave the burden of explaining for the established agents, like cheap politics.
Agents faced a lot of challenges by going in a different country, learning the ways and certainly, as any expat knows, some frustration. By the end, they greased the engine, screened developers for would be buyers and lift the overall bar; indeed a very positive contribution. Yesterday I received some photos of Fortaleza and Natal, I can hardly wait to visit there. And I will do my best to spend at least one week on each, to have time to buy my summer house (or apartment). Not saying other places are not nice, but for me international flight is a must.
Let me add that I do respect those who have different point of views, propose alternatives, or are just skeptical; the problem is that posts here are often crossing the line. And a buyer, like me, can clearly see that and starts losing interest to come to this forum to get information, or exchange ideas.
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Most of the agents on this forum are clearly well-educated, well-informed, put their names and addresses to everybody to see them. I hardly see any advertising here from them (except some negative advertising from those who roots against their own working place), mostly orientation, clarification, guidance, and so on. They do not state things like “come to Brazil and a semi-naked woman (or man, depending on preferences…) will serve you fresh mangos after you swim with dolphins and turtles!!”. On the other hand, there are those who post very negative, often untrue messages, and them they leave the burden of explaining for the established agents, like cheap politics.
Agents faced a lot of challenges by going in a different country, learning the ways and certainly, as any expat knows, some frustration. By the end, they greased the engine, screened developers for would be buyers and lift the overall bar; indeed a very positive contribution. Yesterday I received some photos of Fortaleza and Natal, I can hardly wait to visit there. And I will do my best to spend at least one week on each, to have time to buy my summer house (or apartment). Not saying other places are not nice, but for me international flight is a must.
Let me add that I do respect those who have different point of views, propose alternatives, or are just skeptical; the problem is that posts here are often crossing the line. And a buyer, like me, can clearly see that and starts losing interest to come to this forum to get information, or exchange ideas.
Well said and as people might (or might not) have noticed I've been posting less lately purely because of that. There is no point repeating the same things 10 times a day because posters like Dotty can't be bothered to read what people say before spouting off more utter nonsense.

Some people say she is realistic. Well, describing the worst rainy season Natal has been through in the past ten years (source: Tribuna do Norte - Natal newspaper) as a typical example of bad infrastructure in Brazil is blatantly either stupidity or false propaganda with ulterior motives. Any reference to anywhere else in Brazil is met by "oh that place is fantastic, go there" - obviously something is motivating her.

I'll still be around as there are several people on the forums who do make valuable contributions. And if anyone needs any information I can help with don't hesitate to send me a pm.
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Old 30-04-2008, 11:52 AM
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I have an interest in selling Brazil, a financial interest. We, my partners and myself, have invested millions of dollars, up to this point. I also have a personal interest in seeing Brazil better itself, I live here, my daughter is Brazilian and lives with my ex-wife who is Brazilian. I want to see Brazil improve in all facets, it certainly has the room as well as the capability.

Fortunately for myself I am in a stable financial position and if I choose don't have to work another day in my life. My situation enables me to be able to "afford" to put things like ethics and morals above my company's financial bottom line, or putting it bluntly, making money. Although even before I was in the position I am in today I always had the fortune to work for others and market and sell products/services that I truly believed in and in reality helped the client and/or was a product/service that the client truly needed.

I realize that I have posted some negative aspects of Brazil, but also have posted positive ones as well. I simply refuse to attempt to make Brazil appear to look like some tropical paradise in the sun where problems don't exist. I certainly don't start offering up murder rates and auto accident death rates when talking to an interested client or investor, but if they ask I'm not going to hide the truth either. I've simply had too many friends die here, from both auto accidents and murder, and/or get shot or assaulted, to not tell one the true realities that exist, to not prepare them, to attempt to "gloss over" the bad stuff and only tell the good stuff, so that when/if something bad does happen I can still look them in the eye and not be embarrassed when I go to visit their families, or attempt to help them after the unfortunate accident.

One thing I think most Brazilians need to get a grip on, and that is that when one(especially a gringo) speaks of these unfortunate realities that exist in Brazil many immediately say, "you're talking bad about my country", well, if these realities are indeed true, I, or others, may be talking about the problems that exist, but it is something that is certainly necessary, especially if we're going to change them. In my decade of living in Brazil I have noticed that many Brazilians tend to live with blinders on and just accept all the negative situations with public security, corruption, education, healthcare, infrastructure, and just say, "Well, what can we do?" As if they are impotent to make change. One has to first recognize that a problem exists before he can find a solution and that is one of the huge problem that exists in this country from my experience. It starts with the citizen, exists in the local, state, and federal gov'ts., and also in the huge corporations.

I'll have ties to Brazil long after my professional life is over. And for those investors or others interested in buying in Brazil that I have done business with, when I see them in 15-30 years from now, I'll be able to look them in the eye and have some of them tell me, "Ralph, it's been just like you said it was....."
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Just another few facts.I am not spouting my mouth off .If you would like to read Diario de Natal ref:rain and chaos read edition 28th and 29th.Lagoons in Alfonso Pena,flooding in shops,but thats a millions of miles away.All info on rainfall and damage in the journal.It also mentions litoral north so no it is not false propoganda.For what??Just honesty.
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Well said and as people might (or might not) have noticed I've been posting less lately purely because of that. There is no point repeating the same things 10 times a day because posters like Dotty can't be bothered to read what people say before spouting off more utter nonsense.

Some people say she is realistic. Well, describing the worst rainy season Natal has been through in the past ten years (source: Tribuna do Norte - Natal newspaper) as a typical example of bad infrastructure in Brazil is blatantly either stupidity or false propaganda with ulterior motives. Any reference to anywhere else in Brazil is met by "oh that place is fantastic, go there" - obviously something is motivating her.

I'll still be around as there are several people on the forums who do make valuable contributions. And if anyone needs any information I can help with don't hesitate to send me a pm.
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Ralph, that wasn't aimed at you.

While we don't see eye to eye on everything, your post make sense even if I don't agree with them, you can obviously make a coherent argument and present valid responses to questions asked and topics raised. Everyone can tell you read the posts you are replying to and give your posts some serious consideration when you post. I don't need to agree with every other poster - that would be boring.

Dotty completely ignores whatever anyone else says and just babbles. The rain example is a classic example. In fact just about every single Dotty post is a classic example that she doesn't read what she is replying to, or if she does, she doesn't understand it.

The other explanation is that she can't speak English well enough to properly convey what she means. Whatever the reason because of the demeaning attitude it got old quickly and she replaced GW on my ignore list. It's a delight not receiving 20 emails a day to inform me that Dotty is on a babbling rampage again.
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It is just so interesting what you write.Anything that I have written is so true you disagree with anything I write and call me a liar!I can honestly say that you really are living in cuckoo land and should face the reality.Ralph is a fine example of honesty. Wake up and live in the real world and not zombie plain............
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Ralph, that wasn't aimed at you.

While we don't see eye to eye on everything, your post make sense even if I don't agree with them, you can obviously make a coherent argument and present valid responses to questions asked and topics raised. Everyone can tell you read the posts you are replying to and give your posts some serious consideration when you post. I don't need to agree with every other poster - that would be boring.

Dotty completely ignores whatever anyone else says and just babbles. The rain example is a classic example. In fact just about every single Dotty post is a classic example that she doesn't read what she is replying to, or if she does, she doesn't understand it.

The other explanation is that she can't speak English well enough to properly convey what she means. Whatever the reason because of the demeaning attitude it got old quickly and she replaced GW on my ignore list. It's a delight not receiving 20 emails a day to inform me that Dotty is on a babbling rampage again.
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Old 30-04-2008, 07:30 PM
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It is just so interesting what you write.Anything that I have written is so true you disagree with anything I write and call me a liar!I can honestly say that you really are living in cuckoo land and should face the reality.Ralph is a fine example of honesty. Wake up and live in the real world and not zombie plain............
Hi Ralph& JM, tried the ignore Dotty button, but after a couple of days I felt withdrawal symptoms, and had to reinstate her to get my daily fix of B/S, she never ceases to amaze with her capacity for incoherent ramblings and disjointed quotes from the news paper, keep up the good work Dotty and if you live long enough you will have Natal to yourself as you will have frightened everyone else away.
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Hello Forum,

I am very intersted to know what the term " Guaranteed Rental" actually means in practice. I have heard some people use the term, but it sounds a little ambiguous to me.
Are they guaranteeing a fixed rental income for me on my property if I buy ? What is it based on ?

Junior.
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