Raimundo,

The truth of the matter is that there are plenty of people out here trying to rip people off with false info and Brasil is a haven for that!If you are a victim of falsification then there will not be much comeback and your money will be gone. I cannot believe that people seriously buy land and property in Brasil without ever being here or even visiting??It is the ideal opportunity to be ripped off by a crooked crook........and I always wonder what is seriously going on in their tiny minds!QUOTE=Raimundo;62978]Hello Lagarto -

Thank you, but no thanks sir -- our $ is long gone. And if you think Brazil has a justice system - we have swamp land in Florida cheap right off Alligator Alley! And sir, my coffee statement, although not appropriate, was simply an attention getter to some of us who continue to ask repetitive questions over and over again. IMO, Brazil is not a place that we all seem to think it is. Brazil is a deceptive society.....unfair, corrupt, rude and we foreigners have no recourse should we become a victim of a crime(s) or scam(s). Things appear fine above the surface, but below it's a very different deal -- and we learned the hard way. I'm very sorry if my posts are negative, but we simply have little faith in Brazil... anymore, and we learned a hell-of-a lot!

Lagarto, I see you joined our Forum.... thats interesting sir. Well, I suppose we can all learn something new can't we? But I am curious, if you're so much more experienced than say most of us or I, then why bother joining another Forum? Or perhaps, you're interested in advertising your services on my Forum? Curious minds want to know! [/quote]

I am always learning, researching something new but as for advertising on your forum....Why would I want to advertise on a Forum which is so..so negative about Brazil and indeed encourages people to stay clear of investing ?
The idea of these forums in my opinion is to learn about what doubts potential investors may have and provide an informative solution along with some feedback from existing investors relative to who they may have bought from.
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No problem Lagarto. However that is my point. You and others who are selling real estate in Brazil and you want me to stop posting because I am bad for business. Anyone posting negative stories about real estate in Brazil or being scammed -- people like you Lagarto wish I'd just go away. And I understand this. But sorry buddy, TP is a free Forum and people can post what they want within reason of course and abiding by Forum rules.

Ralph seems to be the only poster posting the truth about the realities of living and working in Brazil. Maybe some of you should read his posts more, with more focus.

Mr. Broad, please be very careful sir as to how you word your post with "Brothels". Our Forum under no circumstances allows discussions of Brothels or anything related. Also, people post what they want, and although some posts might be to negative for you to handle -- well, that's their opinion and we cannot control what people post, nor should we.

About our scam, we did see the land many times, went there often and met with many people. The Governor of RGN had a big party for us, at our expense later, we found out. Our mistake was trusting in a close Brazilian friend who we thought was qualified to handle and over see the project -- and we were wrong. We all make mistakes and we learn from those mistakes. Live and learn as they say....

- Good Day

Yes they are very good at cutting out the lawyers. ONLY deal through a lawyer who is experienceed in real estate. One agent told us not to use a lawyer and we found the property had been sold 6 times already - but it could be ours for aa small deposit!!!
Chris and John

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Dotty From what I understand you bought various lands from Natal to Jerri, along time ago. Ulness they have been developed very unwisely or you have been very very unlucky - you must be pretty wealthy today off the back these investments, why the long face?

I too find the overhype of Brasil as less then helpful, and the last thing I want is gringo investors coming in hordes looking the next Marbella. IMO they are not going to find it and should look elsewhere. But the otherside, is there is money to be made, and a good life style to be found here. Brasil has been very good to me, in all aspects. Many expats fail here for many reasons just as they do every where in the world.

Raimundo you come across here as one who would be overhyping Brasil if you had an interest in it, but as your investments are elsewhere are overhyping the negative.

'Dont go there you cannot trust them... trust me instead' Snake, oil and salesmen are words that come to mind. I guess it must work on some as you wouldnt bother investing so much energy otherwise.

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If I spend $150 per month advertising on your site like Ralph does and write a testimonial saying how great your site is will you say I am honest too?

It seems like you hosted the party with the governor of RN since you paid for it, you just didn't know it.

Coquiero ,

I agree with most of your comments,but I am not quite sure if money is to be made by people that do not have experience in Brasil and the property markets,most that have made money have been around a while and tend to live in Brasil where they have been able to take full advantage of the country and explore its opportunities.

Overhype- is sinking home and the reality is Brasil is miles away,costs a fair bit to get to and is no longer cheap in the long term along with the weak pound,dollar etc.

Investments-solid and thankfully sound,not a long face by any means . We don't hear much about Itacare on this forum are there any condos being built or are they still looking after the island?



Dotty From what I understand you bought various lands from Natal to Jerri, along time ago. Ulness they have been developed very unwisely or you have been very very unlucky - you must be pretty wealthy today off the back these investments, why the long face?

I too find the overhype of Brasil as less then helpful, and the last thing I want is gringo investors coming in hordes looking the next Marbella. IMO they are not going to find it and should look elsewhere. But the otherside, is there is money to be made, and a good life style to be found here. Brasil has been very good to me, in all aspects. Many expats fail here for many reasons just as they do every where in the world.

Raimundo you come across here as one who would be overhyping Brasil if you had an interest in it, but as your investments are elsewhere are overhyping the negative.

'Dont go there you cannot trust them... trust me instead' Snake, oil and salesmen are words that come to mind. I guess it must work on some as you wouldnt bother investing so much energy otherwise.[/quote]

Dotty,

There is plenty of money to be made, if you can do it anyone can.

Did you only just discover that Brazil is far away from Europe, for someone who claims she is a frequent flyer you sound very naive.

Speaking of overhype, that is Jerri, where you put your money? I wonder how much was paid to whomever gave the top 10 beaches award to Jerri, the beach is grey and is turning into a mangrove swamp. If it wasn't for the buggies killing the plants on the beach there wouldn't be a beach. Jerri is a good place to buy drugs as well, dealers standing on the street at both ends of the front.



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I am not quite sure where you are coming from,but I can see that you maybe you have not realized that unfortunately drugs are found the world over and is difficult to combate,but that does not take away from the fact that Jeri is an outstanding natural beauty spot that all should visit at some point whilst in Brasil.

Over hype-The beach has always been slightly grey at the front and of course it's not just a beach it is a natural paradise with outstanding nature that is timeless ,wonderful restaurants and stylish pousadas too !
The days are long gone of lightless streets and animals roaming the sand streets that were peaceful and quiet with semi naked indiinous people around cooking their fish in the garden and fixing their nets,but the spirit is still there in the locals and the money they are earning of course ,so most are very happy folk who do not take drugs .
Have a nice day.
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Senhor Hoskins,

Hold the front page - People taking drugs in beach holiday resort town scandal!

Is there a place in the world where you cannot buy drugs? Even in Singapore where you get whipped and a life sentence for small quantities you can still score.
They should just legalise and tax them.

Dotty you are right; Brazil is a very hard and frustrating business environment to get started in. But once you are up and running it gets easier, if not easy.
Though most members on this forum seem to be making quite small punts on bits of land ,( in what were pretty much valueless areas before the condo developer bought it up). And as such are not really going to overly affected by the frustrating state organs - As long as they purchase properly.

Re Itacare, we are still not really affected by the big condo developers, the ones who are building are very high end, million Real plus properties, so out of reach for the casual investor. More affordable development is mostly being carried out by individuals on small plots.

Though I am not sure how long we will be safe, you may have heard about the small plane that crashed a few months back with 4 British developers on board (no bodies found assumed dead), they had bought land north and south of Itacare to build the type of condos more associated with RGN and Ceara. Maybe some of the agents on this forum knew them? They were based in Spain.

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