Their is some real strange people on this board, Golfingworld just comes back from Brazil and says it how it is and he gets slated for it,
Well for your information Golfworld was in Brazil, people from my company met him while he was over their,
he seams an honest man with his head screwed on, and says it like it is, that's the trouble, not what people on here want to hear is it?

I have been to Imbassai it is beautiful, a bit quiet at present but awesome. The beach is the finest you will ever see. This place is virgin territory and right near to Praia do Forte which is very well done. This coastline will become very stylish and a big tourist destination, the road is good from Salvador (unlike Pipa) and it is very sophisticated. There are golf courses nearby too..whoopee! Pesonally it is not for me as it is too quiet and I am not an "investor" looking for profit, but if you are then this is the place to go of all the places I have seen. Unlike Maracajau these is good renal possibility here as Bahia is the largest Brazilian tourist area, unlike North Natal. Most important of all in this area the infrastructure is there or is going in rapidly. Plus you have the Carnival in Salvador which is massive. In two weeks you can charge the equivalent to a month at any other time. This guy knows his stuff I have met him and I am sure he didn't take his pics from a travel website....like I allegedly did!

Hey I will slate an agent just as easily as GolfXXXX, have a look at the thread where I discuss propertyshowrooms.

It is nothing about what I want to hear, it is more about making a statement and backing it up with facts and then providing some reference to where those facts come from.

Notice I did that earlier when I argued that taking a picture of Pipa during the day doesn't mean that you can work out how busy the place is, I actually referred to another site where other people say exactly the same thing as I was, namely that Pipa only looks busy at night. For that I get called a fool.

All GolfXXXX does is make some sweeping statement, then when he is asked to provide some evidence or answer a specific question, he just comes back with either the same or new sweeping statements.

So just as I dislike to hear agents making things up, I also dislike hearing people slating a place they obviously know little about.

Do I detect a slight "withdrawal" notbeenthere? My "sweeping statements" are there to refute the original sweeping statements made on websites about Brazil....ones like "massive flight increase" or "favourable currency". There is no flight increase and the currency is not favourable at present as the Reis is increasing! These are facts. The occupancy claims are ludicrous 70% of what? This is a cleverly worded ambiguity which the naive amongst us will assume 255 days a year. This is complete and utter nonsense be it now or in the next 5 years, certainly in Natal and definitely in NE Natal up the coast. Yes Pipa is popular but not for 255 days per year. I don't care whether you think I have been in Brazil or not and I don't do all inclusive. Had there really been that massive flight influx claimed on all those websites, I wouldn't have needed to use First Choice to Salvador..but it doesn't exist, just like many of the other sweeping positives which are claimed. If I was to make a hunch, I'd guess you've already paid a deposit on an off plan and are now setting about self-justifying your investment. I came along and burst a lot of bubbles..that's the power of the internet my friend. Long may it last!

I just can't believe I said on the last message that "you make a sweeping statement, someone asks you something or tells you something, then you come back with the same or/and new sweeping statements again." and you actually did it again!!

So now you are actually changing your tune about Pipa, but still claiming that everyone else is wrong and you are right, yet you have as much evidence for this statement as the last one!!

As for the hunch, you are wrong again, I own a villa in Buzios (not the one you were in, the one just north of Rio) which I bought years ago, but that is it for the moment.

I do believe in this thread
you talked about how you stayed in the all-inclusive hotels??

Also did you visit gran natl golf area in pitangui near natal atall ? If so do you have any pickies of that ??

Yes I've been there Dee.....there's two holes in the ground and a sign in it saying "Coming soon"! The area is fantastic, idyllic, nothing to do, no bars, clubs or shops. Beach restaurants were where I had my £30 langostinos. The drive back to natal takes about 50 minutes and the nearest Carrefour is 20 miles way. or will be when it opens. Amarantes, where the new bumper airport will be (allegedly) is not a great area but from GN Golf maybe 35/40 mins. The roads are bad and not easily improved as the area is protected. I am dubious about a golf course as to whether it will ever happen or be a decent full size course. There doesn't seem to be enough land hard to explain but one side is pure dunes with buggies racing over them...not ideal when I am trying to putt for a birdie.

Talking of birdies, it is not a place for a single man, if you want to meet the girl (or man) of your dreams go to Ponta Negra!

I really think this area is over priced by about 25% as by the time the infrastructure catches up (or similar developments) the first ones built will be 5 years old. Most important of all, there is absolutely no entertainment within 30 miles or 1 hour..new bridge or not and there won't be any for many years to come. Shops, I could even get a mickey mouse Ronaldinho shirt there, let alone some sandals.

Sorry to deliver bad news, but you know me by now....I am sure someone will come on and say that Walmart, Macey's and Pacha Disco are planning to be there soon!

Yes I know of the other Buzios BT, footballers wives stuff...the Marbella of Rio. I bet you can't take advantage of the massive flight boom and get there for £350 and you'll therefore know that the Reis is strengthening. How many Cariocas go to Natal for their holidays?

funny you should mention flights, £560 for ibiza-madrid-rio-salvador-rio-madrid-ibiza in peak season ... booked three weeks before departure with Iberia.

As for the reais, I don't think it can get much stronger in the short term without USD support (which isn't there) and besides which it looks like the Brazil interest rate will continue it's downward movement.

I have met quite a few holidaying Cariocas in Pipa over the years but none in Natal itself, but then again, I usually only do my business in Natal then move on.

EVENING ALL,

GW- THANX for your honest opinions and like you have stated before the only real way to know the truth is to get on a plane and"SEE FOR YOURSELF" And make up your own mind and judgements!!

WELL I was relieved to hear that at least theres a sign up saying "COMING SOON"!!
As I know thats its not an imaginary development and that someone has run off with my deposit and are sunning themselves in marbella on their own private yacht drinking a bottle of verve cliquot!!

GUYS...GUYS.... WHATS HAPPENING IS THERE A C**K FIGHT GOING ON OR SOMETHING??? Love thy neighbours....remember!!!!

Take care- speak soon-D

Thanks for all the comments, whether they are all true or not remains to be seen, but at the end of the day some of the comments on here could well become a "self fulfilling prophecy"

the comments by GW were mentioned in the newsletter, so now many potential investors may start to think twice before investing in Brazil, which may well decrease demand.

I personally took the plunge into a condo at Porto Dos Corais, whether or not this was a good decision remains to be seen. But from the research I have done & continue to do, the price per m2 for a sea view condo, including furniture, was pretty good.

I would love to hear comments & further remarks, as Im certainly no authority on Brazil, and No, I havent been there...