A Couple "Musts" and "MustNots" When Investing In Brazil - Page 15

michaelbush · #**141** 28-12-2007, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by robh

I do believe I have spent much more time in Brazil than you have GW?? We also have reps out there who you can meet anytime if you are serious about buying something.

I nearly forgot, I will be out there again in 10 days.

I am disappointed Rob, that I shall not be able to meet you as I will still be on business in Spain and do not return until 14th jan when I believe you leave. Nevertheless you really must meet GW!!! perhaps then hatchets can be buried!

Golfingworld · #**142** 28-12-2007, 03:28 PM

Rob you'll struggle to get into a hotel or pousada in Pipa for less than £60 per night..might be an idea to go to The Canaries it is cheaper! By the way I already bought without an agent did it myself by coming here. As for who I am and my name..mind your own business..I am no obligation to tell you or anyone else anything...if you want me banned fine couldn't give a monkeys.....in fact why not put in an officila request to have me banned...pls send me a copy and their response so it can be published....let's sort this once and for all. The site that bans those who dont agree with what the agents say!

robh · #**143** 28-12-2007, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfingworld

Rob you'll struggle to get into a hotel or pousada in Pipa for less than £60 per night..might be an idea to go to The Canaries it is cheaper! By the way I already bought without an agent did it myself by coming here. As for who I am and my name..mind your own business..I am no obligation to tell you or anyone else anything...if you want me banned fine couldn't give a monkeys.....in fact why not put in an officila request to have me banned...pls send me a copy and their response so it can be published....let's sort this once and for all. The site that bans those who dont agree with what the agents say!

Has someone been giving you coca leaves or the refined product? That is a pretty intense rant.

Thanks for the hotel advice but I got myself a hotel for an extra 100€ for the week on top of the airfare.

Golfingworld · #**144** 28-12-2007, 05:54 PM

So do you want me banned or not Rob? Or can you take the heat?

robh · #**145** 28-12-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfingworld

So do you want me banned or not Rob? Or can you take the heat?

I don't really care whether you stay or go, but if BT gets banned then so should you since the complaints against both of you seem to be the same.

RalphJ · #**146** 28-12-2007, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by robh

I don't really care whether you stay or go, but if BT gets banned then so should you since the complaints against both of you seem to be the same.

Has GW made specific false accusations against you personally Rob? Or your company? Or any other agent here?

BT did!

robh · #**147** 28-12-2007, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RalphJ

Has GW made specific false accusations against you personally Rob? Or your company? Or any other agent here?

BT did!

Back before your time on this forum he nearly got thrown out for that very reason.

mitico67 · #**148** 28-12-2007, 10:18 PM

I really do not understand all this talk of thrown someone out just because he doesn't agree with some of the 'hype' about Brazil and Natal in particular. As a matter of fact I spoke to GW more than once and he has given me some sound advice. Back in may I've started having the interst in buying in the north est as I'm always being in contact with the brazilian culture in Italy first and in the uk now. At first I was one of this potential investor(my budget is very limited) that GW describes.... they don't or won't get off their backsides to listen, look and learn. I gave for granted whatever the agents said on their websites and I almost bought at Porto dos corais. Just before sending the money out I've started a few questions and to my desmay I realized the most of the time I knew more than them. It's a fact that a lot of the agents you can find surfing have very little knowledge of what they are selling. Of course if someone budget it's not restricted and it doesn't affect his finance even if the deal it's not the best it could make sense to use a reputable agent. During my reserch I realized that a couple of agents as UV10 did visit on a regular basis the northest area and had some kind of local knowledge. However the main reason in participating in a forum as this one is ask questions, propose a topic and hope to receive answers, links etc that can make you understand what % of probability of success the chosen project can have. If and when the airport will be ready, only time will tell, but at least I'm now convinced(my personal opinion) that It won't be 2008 as someone use to tell me. Opening a bank account without being resident is extremely difficult. Buying an offplan(ready in 2-5 years) at a price more than 3000reais sq/mt doesn't make sense(personal opinion). Considering to buy a flat that has the potential to be rent it out only to foreigners without a data base of potential client is going to be hard to rent it out at 70% per year. Being the brazilian reais not traded as a normal currency(cannot be fixed in advance) add to the thing to consider if you want to invest in Brazil. Looking at the classified in the diario de natal and into tribuna do norte does it help to have a feel of the price to pay and the price than can be earned on rents. Rob once said he would publish some detail info on the market resale and on rents that his clients are achiving. That would be interesting info that should be told in this forum(if I'm mistaken, please accept my apology in advance). I hope that useful info will start flooding again and all the personal attack be left to PM messages. Thaks all of you that gave me more knowledge!!

debzor · #**149** 29-12-2007, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mitico67

I really do not understand all this talk of thrown someone out just because he doesn't agree with some of the 'hype' about Brazil and Natal in particular. As a matter of fact I spoke to GW more than once and he has given me some sound advice. Back in may I've started having the interst in buying in the north est as I'm always being in contact with the brazilian culture in Italy first and in the uk now. At first I was one of this potential investor(my budget is very limited) that GW describes.... they don't or won't get off their backsides to listen, look and learn. I gave for granted whatever the agents said on their websites and I almost bought at Porto dos corais. Just before sending the money out I've started a few questions and to my desmay I realized the most of the time I knew more than them. It's a fact that a lot of the agents you can find surfing have very little knowledge of what they are selling. Of course if someone budget it's not restricted and it doesn't affect his finance even if the deal it's not the best it could make sense to use a reputable agent. During my reserch I realized that a couple of agents as UV10 did visit on a regular basis the northest area and had some kind of local knowledge. However the main reason in participating in a forum as this one is ask questions, propose a topic and hope to receive answers, links etc that can make you understand what % of probability of success the chosen project can have. If and when the airport will be ready, only time will tell, but at least I'm now convinced(my personal opinion) that It won't be 2008 as someone use to tell me. Opening a bank account without being resident is extremely difficult. Buying an offplan(ready in 2-5 years) at a price more than 3000reais sq/mt doesn't make sense(personal opinion). Considering to buy a flat that has the potential to be rent it out only to foreigners without a data base of potential client is going to be hard to rent it out at 70% per year. Being the brazilian reais not traded as a normal currency(cannot be fixed in advance) add to the thing to consider if you want to invest in Brazil. Looking at the classified in the diario de natal and into tribuna do norte does it help to have a feel of the price to pay and the price than can be earned on rents. Rob once said he would publish some detail info on the market resale and on rents that his clients are achiving. That would be interesting info that should be told in this forum(if I'm mistaken, please accept my apology in advance). I hope that useful info will start flooding again and all the personal attack be left to PM messages. Thaks all of you that gave me more knowledge!!

Some good points, but may I ask did you eventually buy in Brazil, are you still considering it or have you discounted the possibility all together?

michaelbush · #**150** 29-12-2007, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mitico67

I really do not understand all this talk of thrown someone out just because he doesn't agree with some of the 'hype' about Brazil and Natal in particular. As a matter of fact I spoke to GW more than once and he has given me some sound advice. Back in may I've started having the interst in buying in the north est as I'm always being in contact with the brazilian culture in Italy first and in the uk now. At first I was one of this potential investor(my budget is very limited) that GW describes.... they don't or won't get off their backsides to listen, look and learn. I gave for granted whatever the agents said on their websites and I almost bought at Porto dos corais. Just before sending the money out I've started a few questions and to my desmay I realized the most of the time I knew more than them. It's a fact that a lot of the agents you can find surfing have very little knowledge of what they are selling. Of course if someone budget it's not restricted and it doesn't affect his finance even if the deal it's not the best it could make sense to use a reputable agent. During my reserch I realized that a couple of agents as UV10 did visit on a regular basis the northest area and had some kind of local knowledge. However the main reason in participating in a forum as this one is ask questions, propose a topic and hope to receive answers, links etc that can make you understand what % of probability of success the chosen project can have. If and when the airport will be ready, only time will tell, but at least I'm now convinced(my personal opinion) that It won't be 2008 as someone use to tell me. Opening a bank account without being resident is extremely difficult. Buying an offplan(ready in 2-5 years) at a price more than 3000reais sq/mt doesn't make sense(personal opinion). Considering to buy a flat that has the potential to be rent it out only to foreigners without a data base of potential client is going to be hard to rent it out at 70% per year. Being the brazilian reais not traded as a normal currency(cannot be fixed in advance) add to the thing to consider if you want to invest in Brazil. Looking at the classified in the diario de natal and into tribuna do norte does it help to have a feel of the price to pay and the price than can be earned on rents. Rob once said he would publish some detail info on the market resale and on rents that his clients are achiving. That would be interesting info that should be told in this forum(if I'm mistaken, please accept my apology in advance). I hope that useful info will start flooding again and all the personal attack be left to PM messages. Thaks all of you that gave me more knowledge!!

Hi Mitico- thank goodness we can get back on topic, and I agree -if you want to argue off topic please do it in PM's or start another thread!!
Next time you come to Brasil, Mitico, you must look me up!! With the rental aspect of investment, I re-iterate that unless you can attract Brasilian rentals as well, you only will have a tiny fraction of the market. Thus, particularly in this world property market today, look for the exit before committing to buying, whether it be Brasil, Spain, Egypt, Florida etc. If the property can be aforded by locals either to rent or buy, then you should have no problem. This strategy is foremost in our thoughts when looking for deals for our clients.