Dotty - you are talking about the people on minimum wage of 414R$ per month! The wealthy Brasilians want the same comfort and privact that you do! And there are many more of them and I meet them all the time here from the southern states.

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Wow - It's amazing how gullible some people can be isn't it Dotty? My colleague who moved to Natal earlier this year with his family and who has spent over 6 months in Natal alone and speaks Portuguese fluently spent ages finding somewhere to rent and ended up getting something far more expensive than 700 a month.

It's a shame you aren't in the business of renting out properties as you could have saved him a fortune, unlike all his local contacts with real estate agents, developers, promotors, lawyers and other Brazilian professionals.

I'll be out there in about a week - I'll have a look around to see if I can see any going for 700 R$ a month however if you have any you know of please feel free to send me some details and I'll make sure to visit them while I'm there so I can educate him, his and my professional contacts with regards to the reality of the rental market.

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Dotty, lost cause........no profit in low rentals and certainly no sales!

Agents and sellers, the prices are higher than the tourists or residents!

Same applies to you of course GW, if you can back up any of your statements about cheap rentals, by all means pm me the details and I'll make sure to visit them while I'm out there.

In fact if you can back any of your claims up, I'm always happy to be educated so give me a reliable contact of someone who agrees with you regarding:

No one uses the bridge Newton Navarro
Rental prices are dirt cheap
Tourism in Natal is doing worse than the rest of the Northeast
The airport isn't being built
Jacuma is a favela.

And of course any other wild claims you enjoy making but can't prove. Now is your chance.

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Firstly, Dotty lives in Natal I understand she owns property and she agrees with me that there are many cheap rentals around. M Bush says higher prices but he also lives there, so on the balance of probabilities I believe the two residents. Plus, I have seen it for myself as to what is for rent and at what price. Moving on to other issues, we have now had two major developments either gone bust, stalled or run out of money. GNG and Lagoa de Coelho..whatever the exact position they are not exactly driving forward, are they.

Now to the purpose of this thread....the "boom" in flights has not materialised, in fact the reverse into Natal. Thomson have gone, so it is now difficult and very expensive to get there from The UK, quite the opposite to what has been claimed on many Brazil Property websites.

The airport, may or may not be built, but the issue is when and how it will affect traffic into Natal and area and the prices/availability of flights. My view is not a lot and not for a long time and certainly not a reason to claim that the property market will boom and provide wild profits.

The Bridge, is very nice, especially if you like the 5 o clock happy hour payout for being a Gringo in a hire car! It helps Rendinha and certain areas, but it doesn't help anyone from a new or old airport going to Maracajau or that region, which is also what is inferred in much property literature.

Jacuma village is not a favela nor did I say so, I said it is a series of fishermans houses with very little there. Not even an ATM or a Bank! You see, my issue is not with Natal or Brazil, my issue is with deliberately "spun" misinformation or hype, which may allegedly be created to mislead potential investors to the real opportunites.

I like Brazil very much, it can be difficult and dangerous, but nowhere near as dangerous as investing your money in property with those who wish to manipulate the reality.

You are wasting your time, it will never happen.

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Rob,

It's the same as buying a new bag,you can pay 5,00 reais ,50,00,whatever you like and to put it more simply there is something to suit everybodies budget! Now if you want a kitnet you will pay 300-400 reais per mth,700,00 and for something smarter 1,000-1250 per mth .
From an investment point of view there is no doubt that the safest and most secure return is a pool system managed by well run companies as these will and do guarantee your investment returns.
May I also add that G.W knows what he's talking about and lives here and whether it suits you or not it actually is significant because he is not full of crap and has experience here,just like Micheal is a straight and honest guy who lives here too !Not to forget me of course.QUOTE=robh;57322]Wow, they are getting cheaper by the day. Mike Bush says R$1250, GW says R$1000, and now you say R$700. Who can get me one for R$300 per month?[/quote]

How can you "believe the two residents" when they are both saying different things? You have to either believe Mike or Dotty as they are saying different things. I agree with Mike, you agreed with Dotty - now you are saying you agree with Mike AND Dotty?

Absolutely - however as mentioned a million times before - always check the due diligence of a development you are thinking of investing in. We did our Due Diligence on those two which is why we haven't sold any there.

I can't speak for "many Brazil Property websites" however as I see it, there can only be any kind of "Boom" in overseas passengers when the airport is finished. However having said that I do expect one (assuming you would call the amount of passengers tripling in a couple of years a "boom")

I believe with the opening of the airport, within a short time frame the number of arrivals will triple. It isn't the sole reason that the Brazilian market looks like a good investment but it is a part of the reasoning.

No, the bridge won't make any difference to anyone going from the nwew or old airport to Maracajaú but it does help people going from Natal to Maracajaú which is what we have been stating all along and which you were arguing against. Glad your opinion has changed.

You said it was only "mudhuts" - now you are saying there are fishermans village - soon maybe you'll admit that there are some really nice villas up there with swimming pools and that it's actually a nice area.

It seems the "spin" is finally changing and those that wanted to "manipulate the reality" are starting to see things how they really are.

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Oh and I'm still waiting for that contact to speak to in Natal

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Dotty,

1. GW doesn't live in Natal, I have spent more time and have been there more times than him.

2. I do think Mike is honest, GW (by his own admission) manipulates the truth for the sake of winding up agents (which a lot of them deserve, so I do understand why he does it), but you have already been caught out as deliberately giving people bad advice for your own ends whatever they may be...

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