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Old 11-01-2008, 03:37 PM
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l.a.a.s.

Your posts do come across as someone who make a living by promoting property in your region, there are many nice parts of Portugal that still have good prices, not just the the ones you keep plugging!

Come on admit it, ?

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Hi, Manor Park

Yes, there are of course good investments in other regions, depending on what an investor wants. However the more information an investor has the better he can decide.
In my case i`m an investor, in fact a mec engineer that after many years of industry decided to invest in properties. I only sell properties that i own. Properties from 35K euros(plots),new houses around 190K , to over 2.5 million euros(XVIII century noble house).
Definitively as an investor i will keep investing in this region "Dão Lafões" for the reasons i`ve sayng in this forum.

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Portugal it’s one of the Top European destinations to make money, according to Channel 4's Amanda Lamb and the programme "20 Best Places to make money".

Beaten only by the high risk Polish and Romanian markets, Portugal investment potential offers excellent returns and the opportunity to safely enjoy your investment year after year.

Foreign property expert Amanda Lamb referred to Portugal as:
  • Earth shattering investment performance
  • Booming housing market
  • Leaves other mediterranean markets so far behind, yet
  • Properties are not over priced
  • 360% return
In all, a Top Investment Propsect: £ 100,000 invested now could be worth £ 460,000 in 10 years ...
I assume you are referring to A Place in the Sun - 20 best places to make money from Channel4.com/4Homes which discusses "a forecast rise for 2006" meaning that it was released either very early 2006 or late 2005?

I believe in Portugal too, but you have to buy in the right place and the right product. A pitch based on the opinions of a tv show host which are two years out of date is hardly an incentive to buy. If we are to convince the market and ourselves that Portugal is the place to invest in, we need to come up with real reasons which are proven and verifiable.

I've invested in Portugal myself, bought (in 1997) and sold it years later and helped with the purchase of another in 2002. The one from 2002 is in the centre of Lisbon, is still for sale and the asking price has now dropped to the same the person bought it for 6 years ago.

360% return does not seem very likely from 2007 to 2017. At least not based on the reasons mentioned in this thread which all seem to be based on Ms Lambs expertise.

Additionally, Ms Lamb also states that investors can expect as high as 200% Roi from investing in a property on the Costa del Sol. While I live here and enjoy the location and area immensely, if I bought, it would be because of the lifestyle and with more a much more modest approach to what my capital gains could be than expecting prices to go up 200%.

TV property shows - Reliable source of real estate market analysis or light Entertainment?
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Hi

I agree we must be accurate.
In the thread "what will be a property hotspot for 2008" on 26-10-2007, i said Portugal can be an interesting place to make investments because at this moment we have a crisis in the propertie market and the prices are very low. about yield i said it was very dificult to give a number.
However i think that in 1 or 2 years we will have a bullish for the folowing reasons:

_the portuguese economy is very small, does not need a huge investments to recover.
_projects like the new airport and TGV are going to start soom.
_E.U. funds will start coming again in 2008( most of them to center and north of Portugal)
_tourism sector is now making investments not only in seasides, but also in others regions like Dão Lafões and Douro.

Right now for investors that are selling they have to reduce prices or be a bit patients, but for investors that are buying the opportunity is good

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Hi

I agree we must be accurate.
In the thread "what will be a property hotspot for 2008" on 26-10-2007, i said Portugal can be an interesting place to make investments because at this moment we have a crisis in the propertie market and the prices are very low. about yield i said it was very dificult to give a number.
However i think that in 1 or 2 years we will have a bullish for the folowing reasons:

_the portuguese economy is very small, does not need a huge investments to recover.
_projects like the new airport and TGV are going to start soom.
_E.U. funds will start coming again in 2008( most of them to center and north of Portugal)
_tourism sector is now making investments not only in seasides, but also in others regions like Dão Lafões and Douro.

Right now for investors that are selling they have to reduce prices or be a bit patients, but for investors that are buying the opportunity is good

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Hi Luis,

Those sound like much more solid reasons and makes more sense.
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Not sure what % increase central Portugal will see over the next decade, all the right signs are there for good returns but no one really knows what will happen in the property market.
what i can say for sure is that right now is a great time to buy property in Central Portugal, the prices are still very attractive, great value for money,
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Hi JMBroad

On 24 jan 2008, Robert Prechter from Elliot Wave International ( according to bloomberg tv the man who has predicted with success in the last decades several bear markets in stock exchange) , after analysing several indicatores, said stock exchange markets will enter ,with ups and downs ,in a bear period.
He advises investores to give up high profit investments and look for safety investments. Property investments are normally considered safety (at least that is what happened in the past), specially in those regions that the price are low.
In my modest opinion probably we will not have to wait too long to see the property market recovering


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Hi Luis

Couldn't agree more, with the current volatility of the stock markets, property seems a much safer investment.

And as I mentioned, I love the country, have bought and sold in Portugal before and visit it constantly (two weekends ago I went to Lisbon for a cheeky weekend break).

I'm definately going back to Portugal to live at some stage, just not decided when.

Portugal has so many fantastic things going for it, from the people to the food (even though Tripas à moda do Porto and Cozido à Portuguesa still make me cringe - was introduced to them in a Portuguese school canteen which certainly won't be winning any Michelin stars).
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Portugal is a great place, always lots going on, we have just had Carnaval here in Tomar, the parade was on Tuesday, here is some pictures i took.
Carnival in Tomar, central Portugal 2008
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Portugal it’s one of the Top European destinations to make money, according to Channel 4's Amanda Lamb and the programme "20 Best Places to make money".

Beaten only by the high risk Polish and Romanian markets, Portugal investment potential offers excellent returns and the opportunity to safely enjoy your investment year after year.

Foreign property expert Amanda Lamb referred to Portugal as:
  • Earth shattering investment performance
  • Booming housing market
  • Leaves other mediterranean markets so far behind, yet
  • Properties are not over priced
  • 360% return
In all, a Top Investment Propsect: £ 100,000 invested now could be worth £ 460,000 in 10 years ...
Well let's hope she is right - but how can you believe her as she doesn't even know that Portugal is not a mediterranean market. Last time I looked it was Atlantic Coast.
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